The American Military Brit

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This is the American military Britt,

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shedding light on the realities of military life. Now, here's your host, US Air Force Staff Sergeant Christopher Clark.

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Welcome to the American military Brit podcast. This is a podcast where we talk to different military members to figure out the full story about the military, not just the rumors, but the actual story from those who were there and took part in military service. Hello, welcome to the American military Brit podcast. So for the podcast today, we've got a special guest. This this guy? Yeah, I worked with him back in my days in good old Missouri. Back in those the fantastic days. So I'm sure we'll get into that later. But yeah, Sean, if you just want to kind of go into who you are, tell the audience who you are and what you do and stuff, stuff like that. Yes. So my name is Shawn. Last name is peach and I have an intel analyst with the United States Air Force. And I've been doing this job for almost 18 years. 18 years Jesus? Yeah. So yeah. And like, I guess you're at Nellis right now. Right. And you've done some work in like the weapons school and stuff like that. So obviously, we had grant on the podcast who spoke about that a little bit, but like, what are you doing right now is obviously don't go into like the classified stuff. But, you know, I'm saying,

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Yeah, so I basically just look at like, airplanes and equipment and stuff that's coming down for the US. And I, we kind of test those operationally to make sure they function correct. And then we will generate, like, you know, some scenarios or something that's like, based on whatever, you know, whatever, we're kind of looking at whatever the national defense strategy is telling us to do. And then we'll test those against those problem sets just to see how they work. And if we need to, I don't know, you know, make some adjustments or whatever. But usually, by that time, it's like, Hey, this is what you get, like, how's it working? And then we develop like, tactics and stuff with them. All right. So basic training in tech school. I

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don't know with you, I just get a feeling that you had a very interesting basic training and tech school experience. second meeting with a broad brush there. Yeah. Yeah. No, because I just I just think, like, did you? I don't know, did you get into I feel like you may have not like answered back to the MTI but like, I don't know, I just feel like you had an interesting experience, but just kind of like, tell us about that. Because when did you go? You said he'd been in 18? Yeah, so my basic training, I showed up to basic training San Antonio, February 5 2005. Remember the 3/24 training squadron? Flight 101 You still remember that? Yeah. ingrained in your head. And yeah, so needless to say, you know, I went from a position of, like, kind of doing my own thing. Going, like I said, going these parties at the university, deliver my pizza stand at my hotel, you know, doing whatever it is I do. And then I jumped on this limb to do the Air Force. And I show up that basic training and, you know, the first night we get there, it's like, oh, this is great. You know, these guys are actually pretty nice as like, other these guys are supposed to be mean. I was like, they were pretty, they were pretty well, you know, I was like, the pretty rude, you know, like, kind of initially, but like, once you get in there, they're like, Oh, hey, you know, like, we'll get you taken care of just come through the line. You know, the kind of mean to you when you first get off the bus, you know, put your stuff down, then you like drop it, like not pick it up, put it down, you know, like trying to get you to set it down. Man graining that kind of early, kind of breaking you down thing and but then the, you know, after that that night, they were pretty nice. And we got in our room and they're like, Yeah, your guy will be in tomorrow, we're gonna let you sleep in a little bit. Because we got in it like to like 2am It was ridiculous time. delays and stuff. You know, obviously, we have February in the weather and some parts being not so great. And so then the next morning, the door you know, the guy comes in the door at 10 o'clock. And this guy is a psychopath, like this guy is a murderer. So like he comes through the door and he just starts smashing these wall lockers, these like metal wall lockers, where you're gonna put all your stuff and this guy's just yelling at everybody to get up. I mean, you think the buildings on fire the way this guy is carrying on? So anyways, this guy, he's losing his mind, right? And he like he's waking everybody up. We all do these things. And I mean, I mean, it is like this. This is where I've made a terrible life decision.

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This guy he's like yelling at me. Obviously the time so I get the time when I get there. You know, I'm smoking cigarettes and like then now all of a sudden, they're like, Hey, you can't smoke anymore. And I'm like, lovely. It's like I bet I'm gonna have

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Smith drawers and stuff. So yeah, needless to say, not having a guy telling me what to do, you know, you would think that having my dad, you know, then being in the Air Force, I mean, NCOs that'd be used to like the structure and all that kind of stuff. To a degree I kind of was, but I think ultimately what like really was crazy is, you know, just like, it happens so fast. And when you have like that two or three years, where you're just used to being on your own, you're not answering really to anybody doing your own thing, you know, you want to stay at home, you know, you know, drank a little to do whatever, you know, you do whatever you want. And then you get there. And this guy is just like, This guy's like you he's lighting everybody up, just yelling at everybody. He's teaching us to fold beds, I made the mistake of wearing an orange t shirt. So you know, I'm a Tennessee, Tennessee Volunteers guy. And yeah, so they get this bright orange color. And so I'm wearing I'm an idiot, I wear this shirt down there. And this guy, he looks at me and we're trapped. We're learning first day how to fold hospital corners for our bed. This guy looks over at me and he's I messed up so many times. I'll make my bed. I like get up out of my bed. Still, to this day, I get up out of my bed, I leave my bed I'm made. And people are like, well, you know, like talking about that guy with special forces commander, he's like, first thing you need to do everyday is make your bed now that's crap. I'm not gonna make my bed. I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna get a shower, do that. But anyways, this guy, he's yelling at me cuz I'm messing up this hospital corner. And he literally looked over at me. He's like, if you screw this up one more time, I'm literally gonna punch the orange out of your T shirt. And I was like,

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like, you can't punch me. Right? Right.

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You can't do that they said. So yeah, needless to say, I had some kind of skirmishes like that with the TI.

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There was another time where at my portfolio was portfolio at the time as a black folder, had all of our papers and some folders in there, how to bring them to the class or whatever. So everywhere you walk, you got your portfolio, you got your reflective belt and your Lackland laser, as we call them, as I'm sure you still had the flashlight with a cone. So when you're marching, you'll get run over by crazy people. And anyways, I move or I do something to the position of attention while we're waiting to get our uniforms the first time and this guy calls me over. And I'm not having it because I'm upset, like I'm having a nicotine withdrawal. And this guy, he's just like, busting my chops, like days on days. And like, Finally, he's like, put your portfolio down. I literally held it up to my face level and just dropped it onto the tarmac. And like,

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how he was feeling after that. But he definitely told me he picked up he picked up my portfolio and literally threw it like a Frisbee down the down the path, you know, the PT pad or whatever threw down and told me to go pick it up. And he told me he literally leaned in on my face. And he's like, I just want you to know that I want to punch the holy love living crap out of you right now. He's like, I just want to beat the life out of you. And I was like, all of this because I moved to the position of attention like wow, so anyways, that was like, kind of the stuff I were I had to go through then we had a dorm chief, you remember the dorm chief?

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Because of my job, you know, we always had to we had to leave. So because you had your clearance, you had to go fill out your your security questionnaire. And so one day, you know, they pull me in the lake, you know, you gotta get your clearance, you gotta go fill out this questionnaire, and I was like, Oh, sweet. I was like, I'm like, I get yelled at by this guy. So I'm gonna go down, fill this out. Anyways, I come back and I'm like, trying to be a team player. Right? I'm like, I just want to help out and the dorm chief, he's the only one there that Ti is gone for the day are gone for lunch or had a medical plan. I know he's gone for a while. Anyways, this guy comes back and he's

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talking to the dorm chief. And I'm like, trying to figure out what to do. And he's like, just hold on a minute. And like, I think it was like 10 minutes or something goes by and I'm like, go back. I'm like, Hey, man, like what you want me to do? Like, I want to I don't want to sit around and do nothing. This guy gives me this feel stupid answer largely because he's, you know, probably under a lot of stress because he's the dorm chief. And if something bad happens, he's gonna get chewed out. Anyways. Anyways, finally I had enough of this guy, and I told him exactly what I thought and just lit him up, swear words whole nine. And then this guy, the TI comes back pulls me in the office. He's like yelling at me. And I gotta like, defend myself, like, you know, legal. I'm like, Hey, this guy, he's being a jerk. I'm just trying to figure out what he wants me to do. And he's, you know, yelling at me. He's on a power trip. And I had a witness even I was like, this guy solid. He saw this guy was just a crazy person, and wouldn't tell me what to do. So that was like, the I was interesting.

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And then yeah, let's touch on tech school as well. Was like tech school, because I know we had a couple of people under age who like drank when they shouldn't have. We had all kinds of you know, where you had to line up outside, everyone grinds up outside in their blues. And on the weekend, we had all that stuff going on. So I don't know. Like, how was your tech school experience? So tech school is one of those where you get in there and you're like, oh, man, things are finally calmed down a little bit. You know, they're kind of like

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is still asserting themselves a little bit but it's not nearly as bad. And you know the first time you had your different phases, the different phases last different amounts of time depending on how long your tech school was, but our school is like five, six months so you know, you're spending a couple of weeks on phase. So the first night it get out there I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go down to this place was called Graham's.

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The club, I was like, I'm gonna go down there and break phase and I'm just gonna go down there and like, I'm gonna go down there and check it out, man, because I haven't seen civilization. And I get in there and bro, I'm so nervous. I was like, Dude, I'm gonna get caught. I'm gonna get so much trouble. I was like, I can't do this anymore. So then I went back and I play by the rules didn't go back out again until I was a phase. Then I happen to hit my 21st birthday. Pretty quick when I got down there ish like halfway like right when it kind of got to Phase I hit 21. And it started I we would just we would rush home from night shift, like change our clothes as quick as we could drive down to a place It was called Bally's was no jersey was not jerseys, Bailey's as a sports bar. I can't remember the name of it. I got the t shirt. But we got Yeah, we got out of this sports bar has since closed, it was closed. When I was talking to some other people, we went down there and we would just smash. We would have smashed through drinks. And then we and then we would have a DD every night. It'd be a DD and then we would drive back to the installation. And we come through. I mean, there were nights I could never remember. You know, I can remember a ton of nights we had a guy on my team and my class name Johnson and this guy. He's like, this guy's like six six. He's huge. He's probably like as tall as you. But he was a little he was is like a little more bulky than you probably a little bit. Not much. But

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he like I remember so many times this guy who's picking me up and I can be up the stairs because I'm just wasted. One One thing that's good about having Shawn here is that we can talk more in depth about Missouri because I know in my intro podcast, I mentioned how bad Missouri was. And I'm sure people want to know probably a little more but we won't go there necessarily straightaway but just kind of tell Sean about because where were you at before Missouri like what was your first base after tech school. So oddly enough, my first base was Nellis.

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So originally, I had orders to go to Creech where they had all the like the you know, the RPAS or whatever, that I got redirected analysis was part of the 547 which is kind of like a nice place for intro level analysts and everything kind of learning the skills. And so I did that. I deployed one time 2007 Back when things were like bad in the Middle East and then came back and then eventually went over to the weapons school to work and like a small enlisted team they have there and then I was like I gotta get out of here. So then I went to that's when I peace. I got to what was it PCs to Scott Air Force Base. I worked at transportation command. So yeah, talking about a riveting job, but I was transportation command. I was on the watch there. So like I was instrumental in like the Maersk Alabama if you remember the Captain Phillips hijacking.

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So I was there when that was happening, stuff like that. So then I was there for three years did some cool really cool jobs were some amazing people. But it was like very different than like the fighter squadron that I was used to and I was like this everybody is generals all over the place. Everybody's like got a weird attitude. very, like, you know, who will Don't say that. That's offensive, and I was like, what is happening? So and then finally, I was like, Okay, I gotta get out of here as a good guy to go back to the real operational Air Force. So then I went to Missouri, to Whiteman and then I was there for a couple of years before you showed up. And then I had the awesome privilege of was that your supervisor at one point supervising airman Clark at the time

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yes so funny story let's let's talk about when I first get to Missouri right I remember I got there and I think it was the next day we went bowling you remember when the targets Gosh, dressed up as spice the Spice Girls right. I was that was was magic there was there? We were so

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like, that was trouble. Let me just let me just say this though. Like when I show I remember showing up. And the first time I meet this guy, right? He's wearing a Manchester United shirt and I was thinking, Gosh, because I despise Manu more than like any team in the world apart from you know, being a Newcastle fan of course I despise Sunderland, because that's our local rivals, but Manchester United. I cannot stand them and this guy's we're in a minute. Sure, but I'm thinking okay, he likes the Premier League. Idli so he likes English football. Yeah.

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So we'll get we'll get along here but yeah, yeah. As like a real as like a real British person. Yeah. Yeah. But it was it was a good time. And but obviously I didn't really know what I was getting myself into because Missouri like Missouri, right. So I'll say this. We had some we had some good people, like some hard workers, some smart people and whatnot. But we had also just a lot of people that would just that just made it a very bad experience. I will say, and obviously I mentioned this a little bit about a certain major who was the worst person I've ever met in my entire life. He was Edwards, I mean, listen, right. We, and even the guy before wasn't, wasn't great. But we weren't. We weren't. We want to talk about names here. But this, you know, this guy. Yeah, we got a lot of good work done. But he just wasn't, he wasn't the friendliest. And he certainly would, you know, make us I had to stay late multiple times, like as an M, and you're just thinking, What am I, I don't want to do this. I want to go have fun and just relax. Is that right? But like, just I'm interested, like, what was your take on Missouri? Like, how was your experience? Because mine is just basically all negative? Wow. Yeah. I mean, so like, you know, I think it was a little bit different for me, because, like,

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I'll never, it's really hard to put into words. So like, it's tough, because I talk to a lot of people after the fact because they're like, man, like, that was a terrible experience. And like, you know, they're like, you're a, you're a tough person to work with. And it's like, you don't understand, bro. I was like, same individual that's, like, you know, driving you guys to stay late and do all these things. I was like, he's like, you know, he's really driving me hard. So like, you know, you think you guys got a rough I was like, I mean, there's number of times you get pulled in the office, and it's like, Hey, man, like your team. This team isn't up to snuff. We're not getting done what we need to do. And I was, and I remember a specific incident where they're like, Hey, man, this guy, you know, you're the NCIC at targets, and you know, the same, you know, the same rank as this guy, but we need you to give this guy an LLC. And I was like, No way. I was like, I'm not doing this. I was like, I'm the same rank as the guy. And he's my friend. I was like, I'm not doing that. And they're like, well, we'll just fire you and find somebody else who can. And I was like, Well, I was like, that's a good, you know, that's, well, when you put it like that.

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So, you know, it's one of those things where I think a lot of people saw what they saw from their perspective, but they didn't necessarily understand what was going on behind the scenes. So like, everybody's like, Oh, this guy's kind of a jerk. But like, I'm just like, Dude, it's like, I'm getting, you know, I'm getting my chops, busted real hard by this guy even harder than you guys. And it's like, Hey, I just need you to stay late to do this thing. And it's like, Why? Why am I staying late to do this thing, it's like, because if you don't stay late to do this thing, I'm gonna get crushed. So it's like, you know, so it's tough for us. But at the same point, like, like you said, it was one of those situations where we got a lot of work done. And the work that we did was incredible. The work that we did was incredible. Even looking back, and kind of having interactions with the with the group kind of runs the place. Now, you know, they're not even anywhere near how good that we were doing the job. So we were doing the job at a real high level, making a lot of great connections, a lot of great connections. So that was when I finally got picked up to go to the weapons school, won a bunch of awards and stuff, because the philosophy was from this guy is if you buy in to the to the program, and you do what I want you to do, I'll take care of you. And I'll give you what you want. So I bought in because I was like, Dude, I'm just trying to like, I'm just trying to get to be a master sergeant. And, you know, my first time and you know, obviously, there's a lot of things that got in the way of that happen. But at the same point, like, you know, at the time, I was on a trajectory that was like, you know, I graduated weapons school, I'm one of the first guys ever to graduate weapons school, then I come back to Whiteman, I'm doing the job. We're changing things. I'm going TDY I'm winning awards. They're talking about like OTs, I mean, I'm just getting I'm just getting everything. And, and then finally, it just got to the point where he left San when he left.

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You know, it was one of those situations where he was not liked by the people below him necessarily. And he definitely wasn't necessarily liked by the people above him. So anybody who was associated with his inner circle after that just got crushed. So you know, so the, from the work perspective, it was not fun. I remember I left there with a really low, really low morale really low. I got like a really, like I got an Achievement Medal. And like, usually, you know, for NCOs it's like gonna be a commendation and they gave me an Achievement Medal after all the things that we had done, and it was just a direct shot from the leadership because they did not like that guy. Alright, and so it was rough from a work perspective, but it was still rewarding at the end of the day. I mean, it

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You know, one, you know, words that like the Global Strike level at the time, which was a big deal and winning awards for the bass or dang near winning awards for the bass. And so, I mean, for like, Insio the year and stuff like that. So like, it was definitely rewarding if you put in the work, but it was really stressful and was really hard

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mentally to get through that. Okay, so let's talk about deployments. So, you went, well, you're one of those strange people that calls Qatar, Qatar or

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there's that, but that was a British thing.

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I have I have actually heard it in England before I think I have

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gone down to Qatar.

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But yeah, what was so what was your What was your first deployment that you did? Yeah. So the first one was oh, seven. I originally was supposed to go to Iraq, like in live at Bilad. But they did away with my job or like, my job was being run by like a Senior Master Sergeant at the time. And I was like a dopey airman, but I don't think this senior was in the guard or something. Regardless, I ended up getting held at Qatar

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at the time, and I got I was with a special operations or whatever. And they were like, Yeah, you're gonna live here, but you know, just be prepared to travel around a lot. So we did that the first one. So that was six months. That one I missed.

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That was my first one, my wife at the time was pregnant with our son. So I missed him being born for that one, and then I came back home. So there's kind of a two things. So you could be like a six on six off for some of the Intel people depending on the job. And then other people could be longer. I was not as on and off, because my son, like I said he had, he had a heart issue, like shortly after he was born. So like, as soon as I got back, I came back actually, like a week early because he had like a medical emergency. But anyways, so then I go to the second one, I gotta like this long period, because when I was at this, at the transportation command job, we didn't deploy anywhere. So like, you're on a code 50 You couldn't go anywhere. It's good. You were stuck there. And I was like, Okay. And then 2012 2013, at Whiteman, I go to, I go to Qatar again. But this time, I'm like, kind of more an Air Force job. So I was a boring Air Force job, working with the, you know, just kind of like the wing out there doing some intel stuff, more like data compilation.

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The war at the time was like that. Afghanistan at the time was really calm for the most part. I mean, we had some fight, and that was going on, but it wasn't like anything crazy. And then Iraq was like, kind of that one was like kind of wrapping up. So we're kind of wrapping up with that one. And looking more like, you know, Afghanistan. So that one was one was a little bit longer that was about was seven months. So as you know, like, the thing the Air Force is, like, if you're at a place over 180 days, that's, that's counted as a short tour, or at least it used to at the time. So you I was there for 192 days, but literally, like two weeks before I'm leaving, right? They come out with guidance to say, Hey, man,

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I know that you're out here 192 days, but doesn't count as a short tour. So I was like, Are you kidding me? And they're like, yeah, so then now I'm coming back and popped for Korea, like, you know, 69 times are like trying to get me to go to Korea, and I'm like, I'm not going to Korea. So you're kind of wife and kids and like going to Korea by myself. So, you know, so that was kind of an interesting thing. But yeah, the second one, the second deployment was not very rewarding, was a pretty boring job. The people I mean, the people were pretty cool. Most of the people were pretty cool. I'll tell you that was like the most jacked I probably ever was in my life when I left there, because all I did was play. I would go to the gym,

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eat, go back to my little dorm place. The guy who I roomed with was like a maintainer who was gone during the day, I worked nights. So then I would just play some StarCraft on the computer. So I'd like watch professional Starcraft players and I'd like learn how to do their strats and then I would go play like online Starcraft and like do that for like four hours and then go to bed. What a geek right? What a stupid geek that was do that all day and then like we're insane repeat like every day and then some days you'd go downtown and get to interact with the culture and eat the food which is terrible and so yeah, yeah, I mean, for those who don't know like deployments mind that's pretty much well they are you just you know, eat sleep repeat.

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I mean, it's not as bad as like being in a fog out in like Afghanistan getting shot by like the Taliban all day. I want to ask you about why you still in but I'm assuming I mean, you're 18 years in right so I'm guessing you're just going for the 20 and then you'll be done pretty much Yeah, man. 2020 Years Day One will be my retirement ceremony like the day the anniversary of so like, I'm pretty sure the rule says that you can drop your papers like a year out and then set up for like now

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19 years like our zero, I'm going to be pushing that application. And then 2020 years to the day, I will be likely it can't be to the day that I signed, it'll be actually February 12. Because come to find out when you're incarcerated those days don't count.

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So my days got bumped to the 12. So February 12 2025. Done. Yeah, I'm gonna go be a real real person again and try to get paid some money. So most were You were incarcerated. Yeah. So just for a week, you know, how one of those one of the things you get, you know, in trouble for, like, you know, getting a fight downtown, or, you know, some people get DUIs. Mine was like, a scuffle, if you will. So, yeah, but then like, the problem was, is when I went, they, they were like, Hey, man. So there's like, this disease outbreak, and this other, this other jail, and they like, somehow infected the courtroom where the hearings are, because you gotta have like, when you're arrested, you gotta like, go up in front of the judge. And he's got to tell you like, okay, you can go, and then they turn you over is like, you know, for roughhousing, or whatever. And, you know, why stop drinking?

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And then, yeah, so then I get down there. And

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he's like, Yeah, you know, it's delayed, because they gotta, like, clean this place out disease or whatever, is just disgusting. So I gotta clean this place out. So there, so I was there for four days. And I was like, holy cow, if I'd known it would have been this long, I would have just called a bail bondsman, or whatever. And, like, got out, but like, you know, there's, every day it was like, we don't know when so like a guy like four days or something got tacked on. So now, like, my new day is like, the 12th of February instead of the fifth of February. So you don't get paid for those days, either. It's like paid. It's like suspension without pay. And it sucks. So then I go, I get my stuff back, I'm allowed to go back and do my job. So like, the first part is gone. You know, they throw the book at me or whatever, and make an example out of me. And then, so you know, they're like, that was the time they're like, Hey, you're demoted. I was like, okay, whatever. And they're, like, just come back and do your job.

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So I went back to my job. And so after that, was when the, when the COVID came to America, and that's when they were like, Hey, man, we're gonna shut down, we're gonna, some of these people at flag are going to leave early. And we need you to go home. And don't come back until we tell you. And I was like, why and like, We're shutting, we're shutting down because of COVID. And I was like, really under the gas. So they're like, just standby. And go. So that was when we entered, like, pretty much like three months of just like hanging out at our house all day, couldn't go anywhere, or played video games. You know, it's pretty hard to be an intel analyst when you're at home.

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Like, yeah, so yeah, so that was that was it? That was pretty much that time. And yeah, so since then, I've just decided I'm just going to continue to do because I love what I do. I mean, I like my job. And so I'll just continue to do my job. And then, you know, whatever happens, you know, whatever I rank I make, or whatever is fine. And then when I get to, when I get to

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20 years, I'll punch out, I'll take the money. You know, it's just probably a pretty nice car payment, and then and then medical insurance for life or whatever. And for super cheap rate, which is the more important thing I think, is just getting that medical coverage, so may as well stay and do it. Yeah. So like, as far as Do you have any, like solid plans for when you leave? Have you thought about that? Yeah, it's coming up, coming up pretty quick, I think. I'm just gonna kind of I've always viewed the military as kind of like the minor leagues of like, especially for like, analysts and stuff, I've always viewed it as, like, you know, you look at some sports, some types of sports, like baseball, or even if you look at, like, for example, like pro wrestling or something, you look at these guys, and you know, they're like on the Indies or whatever, for like, 20 years, and then they show up big time, you know, doing like a, you know, a WrestleMania or plan, you know, this guy spends like five years in the minors, he gets called up to play for the, you know, get a shot, to play for the twins or something. So, like, I've always viewed the military is like, Hey, this is where I'm gonna go get my, you know, my bona fides of who will get my you know, my credentials, my credibility, my education, and build all of these tools. So that way, when I'm 40 years old, I can done and I'm ready to move on to a new career. It's like, I've got all these things that the military has given me. And now I can apply these to a job and get paid like, you know, like, double triple whatever you're making now. And then it's like, you know, I'm pretty sure that if I put my name out there, you know, if I was to retire tomorrow or something, so you know, kind of floating around or at least separation for some people. And so I'm pretty sure if they came to me was like, Hey, you want to retire? I'd be like, yeah, and then I'd probably have a job, you know, a couple weeks after that just because of the credentials and the credibility and the stuff, you know, my my experience and all those types of things that I can bring to the table and

Unknown Speaker 30:00
I'd say not overly worried about it. So I'm sure as we get closer, we'll start to entertain offers and different jobs and when we get there, we'll get there.

Unknown Speaker 30:09
Awesome. But yeah, just want to thank you for coming on the podcast that was great stories that you told there. So thanks for having me on. Glad to see that you're here you know, taking advantage of the benefits and everything and having a podcast thanks when they come on and feel like I'm the podcast celebrity like a Joe Rogan.

Unknown Speaker 30:29
Level I mean, definitely don't have that viewership.

Unknown Speaker 30:32
Now, I appreciate it. Thanks, man. Yeah, for sure.

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